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Name: allertsep12
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Overview: multiple wind turbines mounted atop rubber tires that swivel and towers joined together to resemble a carrousel pulled by a tug that circles around thus creating the wind to turn the turbines.
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Submitted: Oct 1, 2010
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At your request it is pleasure tu show You an abbreviated version of
the video on the applications of my invention...
I hope You liked my idea of cheap, efficient and simple
to perform Stirling Engine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml6PsaFDQGg
Best and warm regards
Andrew Wasowski
the video on the applications of my invention...
I hope You liked my idea of cheap, efficient and simple
to perform Stirling Engine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml6PsaFDQGg
Best and warm regards
Andrew Wasowski
Nov 14 2010 by Andrzej-Aka
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Oct 15 2010 by Clean Legacy
Not to be a downer here but assume X > Y, where X is the amount of energy you put into "creating wind" and Y is the amount of energy you get from it. If you are having to generate the driving force that powers the device you are automatically losing energy, no physical system is even 100% efficient let alone 110% which is what ideas like this require. Point being the tug with it's friction in the tires to road/axle..., even given a high efficiency engine will always use more energy than would be created by a system like this (wind turbines have a theoretical limit to efficiency). Not trying to bash because I know its just an idea being thrown out there for everyone's benefit but try to think more about what energy is already out there instead of what energy you could create by combining things that already use energy. I've been thinking about these issues for a long time and have learned now to dodge my own ideas that start to fall into this realm of using complex sets of machines to create energy, its just not physically possible. Instead I've learned that what I consider my "best" ideas, those that get closest to being something that could in fact be real and harness energy, tend to be about observing the change in nature. Change in itself requires energy therefore if you can capture the energy that creates the change but without destroying the necessary side affects (salmon need to make it upstream to breed) of the change then your in business. Glaciers, pressure differntials, strong currents, those types of things.
Oct 2 2010 by shaun.husain
I appreciate your comments, and the reason you dont agree with my idea is because you have not seen the drawings since it will only be viewed by the judges;If they agree you will see the whole concept.
Oct 3 2010 by allertsep12
Ok, you said "The vehicle that I'll utilize as a tug will be a 300hp electric vehicle which will be kept charged from one of the windmills." That would be about equivalent to 225Kw (or more.) The bottom line is that you can't get more energy out of a system than you put in, and as a matter of fact you usually get substantially less. Systems have efficiencies which are only percentages of the total. Perhaps because I can't see your whole idea I am misunderstanding what you are proposing. Have a nice day!
Oct 3 2010 by bcks
I mentioned ten to 15 vertical axis windmills at 25 kw each not one at 225 kw
Oct 3 2010 by allertsep12
You titled this idea as "without wind." I didn't calculate the 300hp, you said that is what you were going to use - just to turn the carousel. If you are going to have a group of windmills, why wouldn't you let them be stationary and just collect the wind energy as efficiently as possible? Finally, a 225Kw windmill is a pretty big windmill. So using that much electricity to turn your carousel would not be efficient. And, like shaun said above, as I tried to point out above, it appears you are putting more energy into creating the energy than you are getting out. Unless I am completely misunderstanding you, which is of course entirely possible, that would be a negative return. Might as well just go out to eat and read a book!
Oct 3 2010 by bcks
You calculated the 300 HP but did you calculate the Hp that the wind is creating as the carrousel circles around with at least 10 vertical axis wind turbines producing from 10 to 50 KW each.The tug plus the wind has more energy than what I am creating.
Oct 3 2010 by allertsep12
Let's see, 300HP would be about 225,000 watts, right? How much more energy than the amount you put in do you think you could make? Answer: less. Oops!
Oct 3 2010 by bcks
I thought of this idea when I was a kid and stuck a fan out of a car running at 10 MPH and the fan started to circulate; So, if you can circulate a carrousel with multiple vertical axis windmills mounted on top and running at a constant circulating speed you will be able to produce great amounts of electricity. The vehicle that I'll utilize as a tug will be a 300hp electric vehicle which will be kept charged from one of the windmills.
Oct 3 2010 by allertsep12
Congratulations, your idea looks like one of the last ones submitted. Good luck. I hope many of these great ideas can be implemented soon. My idea might help:
http://tinyurl.com/RealCapital
http://tinyurl.com/RealCapital
Oct 2 2010 by bcks
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